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Haecceity in this post.
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by Linas Vepštas <linasvepstas@gmail.com> · 2026-01-27T09:17:09.000Z

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29172917 Fuck me.
29182918 I cannot summarize this mess.
29192919 Later.
2920\end_layout
2921
2922\begin_layout Subsection*
292327 Jan 2026,
2924 well past midnight
2925\end_layout
2926
2927\begin_layout Standard
2928If I don't write this down now,
2929 I'll just feel like shit tomorrow.
2930 I've been putting this off too long.
2931 Its about haecceity.
2932\end_layout
2933
2934\begin_layout Standard
2935So how do we know space is three–dimensional?
2936 At the macro level,
2937 it is obvious.
2938 At the micro level,
2939 we have the hydrogen atom,
2940 and the solution of Schrodinger's eqn.
2941 which gives the correct spectrum only for 3D and so we know that space is also 3D down to at least the atomic level.
2942 After that,
2943 we have the Standard Model,
2944 which tells us space is 3D down to the nuclear level.
2945 Certainly,
2946 textbook–standard QCD is built out of 3D space,
2947 but still I keep daydreaming that somehow QCD is dual to some hyperbolic space all glued up at the chiral bag boundary.
2948 Hmm.
2949 Oddly,
2950 I never even attempted to write down the equations for that.
2951 Why?
2952 I dunno.
2953 Below that,
2954 perhaps there is,
2955 and perhaps there are not some kind of strings or branes in some other dimensions,
2956 but this seems irrelevant for the present discussion.
2957\end_layout
2958
2959\begin_layout Standard
2960(Footnote:
2961 so how do I write down free fermions on a 3D space with hyperbolic metric?
2962 Fuck me.
2963 Do I need to redo my PhD thesis?
2964 Is this question just another waste of time?
2965 I mean,
2966 I suppose someone has already solved this,
2967 and how much am I really curious about it?
2968 I will ask Claude tomorrow.)
2969\end_layout
2970
2971\begin_layout Standard
2972So what is the haecceity of the hydrogen atom?
2973 Let me step back:
2974 does time exist in an empty universe?
2975 Well,
2976 if by
2977\begin_inset Quotes eld
2978\end_inset
2979
2980empty universe
2981\begin_inset Quotes erd
2982\end_inset
2983
2984 one means
2985\begin_inset Quotes eld
2986\end_inset
2987
2988a solution to the Einstein eqns
2989\begin_inset Quotes erd
2990\end_inset
2991
2992,
2993 then yes,
2994 there are all kinds of solutions,
2995 static and expanding,
2996 even rotating.
2997 These have parameter directions that we can associate with
2998\begin_inset Quotes eld
2999\end_inset
3000
3001the time direction
3002\begin_inset Quotes erd
3003\end_inset
3004
3005.
3006 But the are parameterization invariant:
3007 there is no
3008\begin_inset Quotes eld
3009\end_inset
3010
3011here and now
3012\begin_inset Quotes erd
3013\end_inset
3014
3015 in any solution to GR.
3016 Or,
3017 for that matter,
3018 QM or QCD or the Standard Model:
3019 time is reparameterizable.
3020 and since I am looking for here and now,
3021 where the past is frozen and inaccessible,
3022 and the future is unwritten,
3023 none of these are acceptable at the superficial level.
3024 That is to say
3025\begin_inset Quotes eld
3026\end_inset
3027
3028time does not exist for a free electron in an empty universe
3029\begin_inset Quotes erd
3030\end_inset
3031
3032.
3033\end_layout
3034
3035\begin_layout Standard
3036Ah,
3037 but what about a hydrogen atom?
3038 Something happened,
3039 there.
3040 There is a haecceity,
3041 a
3042\begin_inset Quotes eld
3043\end_inset
3044
3045thisness
3046\begin_inset Quotes erd
3047\end_inset
3048
3049 to the hydrogen atom.
3050 The electron wave function is not just
3051\begin_inset Quotes eld
3052\end_inset
3053
3054somewhere out in the universe,
3055 some
3056\begin_inset Formula $\left\langle \psi\right|$
3057\end_inset
3058
3059 lacking an
3060\begin_inset Formula $x,t$
3061\end_inset
3062
3063 coordinate – no,
3064 it has a very specific ground state in relation to the proton that fixes an origin for a coordinate system.
3065 Direction is not fixed,
3066 because we have no fixed stars.
3067 But if we take the universe to be irrotational (knowing that the universe must be approximated by,
3068 for example,
3069 de Sitter space) then we can have some conception of angular momentum,
3070 even if we don't have fixed stars.
3071 We can
3072\begin_inset Quotes eld
3073\end_inset
3074
3075tell
3076\begin_inset Quotes erd
3077\end_inset
3078
3079 that the de Sitter space is not rotating,
3080 because certain rotational tensors vanish.
3081 So we have an irrotational space,
3082 and a coordinate system established by the proton,
3083 and the electron is not very far away.
3084 Together,
3085 they are
3086\begin_inset Quotes eld
3087\end_inset
3088
3089this atom
3090\begin_inset Quotes erd
3091\end_inset
3092
3093.
3094\end_layout
3095
3096\begin_layout Standard
3097Translational momentum remains indeterminate.
3098 Worse,
3099 the hydrogen atom,
3100 taken as a whole,
3101 is still subject to the Heisenberg uncertainty principle,
3102 so,
3103 however localized the packet may have started,
3104 it will spread.
3105 But what we do know is that,
3106 henceforth,
3107 the proton and the electron are traveling together.
3108 This is the
3109\begin_inset Quotes eld
3110\end_inset
3111
3112haecceity
3113\begin_inset Quotes erd
3114\end_inset
3115
3116 of the hydrogen atom.
3117 By hand-waving,
3118 this haecceity extends to the Colorado river flowing downstream,
3119 all
3120\begin_inset Formula $6\times10^{23}$
3121\end_inset
3122
3123 times however many cubic centimeters in question:
3124 they move together now,
3125 held by hydroen bonds between the water molecules.
3126 The molecules move together,
3127 and the wave function
3128\begin_inset Formula $\left\langle \psi\right|$
3129\end_inset
3130
3131 is not spread out over the universe,
3132 but very highly localized to travel together.
3133 But that's hand–waving to large numbers.
3134 Lets return to the single hydrogen atom.
3135\end_layout
3136
3137\begin_layout Standard
3138How did the hydrogen atom come to be?
3139 Well,
3140 if we start with the deSitter solution,
3141 and stick a single proton in it,
3142 spread uniformly over the entire space,
3143 and a single electron,
3144 spread uniformly over the entire space,
3145 then we say
3146\begin_inset Quotes eld
3147\end_inset
3148
3149it is ionized
3150\begin_inset Quotes erd
3151\end_inset
3152
3153.
3154 And if we give both zero momentum,
3155 then we say that they are at 13.7 eV with respect to each other,
3156 at the ionization limit:
3157 motionless with respect to each other,
3158 and not flying away.
3159 And since they are motionaless,
3160 and occupy every possible location in space,
3161 so that
3162\begin_inset Formula $\left\langle \psi\right|\left.x\right\rangle =\mbox{const.}\ne0$
3163\end_inset
3164
3165 for all
3166\begin_inset Formula $x$
3167\end_inset
3168
3169 in the universe,
3170 for both proton and electron.
3171 well,
3172 we should be able to apply the Born rule and say that they will emit at least one and perhaps many photons,
3173 until they turn into a hydrogen atom,
3174 somewhere in the universe,
3175 and by extension,
3176 everywhere in the universe,
3177 all at once,
3178 all at the same time.
3179 And those photons?
3180 Well,
3181 they are s-waves,
3182 (or perhaps p-waves?
3183 I am so incredibly fuzzy on this...) and again,
3184 they are everywhere all at once,
3185 but this times,
3186 its a bit different,
3187 because we can now take them to be on–shell,
3188 and so oscillations of crossed E and B fields,
3189 this time on a lightcone.
3190 Or technically,
3191 on all possible light cones whose origin is located at all possible locations in de Sitter space.
3192\end_layout
3193
3194\begin_layout Standard
3195What has changed?
3196 The emission of the photon(s) appear to have created a specific location in time,
3197 a mark.
3198 Now the Born rule doesn't given you a precise delta function,
3199 its a smear over time.
3200 But we are talking microseconds here (I have no clue what the timescale is,
3201 but its short compared to the age of the universe,
3202 at any rate) so we seem to have a distinct marker in time.
3203\end_layout
3204
3205\begin_layout Standard
3206The only problem with this idea is that if the electron and proton
3207\begin_inset Quotes eld
3208\end_inset
3209
3210have always been there
3211\begin_inset Quotes erd
3212\end_inset
3213
3214,
3215 since the start of the deSitter universe,
3216 then we have a problem,
3217 as they would have deionized on the spot,
3218 instead of waiting a billion years to
3219\begin_inset Quotes eld
3220\end_inset
3221
3222mark the spot
3223\begin_inset Quotes erd
3224\end_inset
3225
3226.
3227 So this is confusing,
3228 a conundrum.
3229\end_layout
3230
3231\begin_layout Standard
3232But at any rate,
3233 with a hydrogen atom,
3234 we have a ruler:
3235 the characteristic size of the atom,
3236 and we have a clock:
3237 the characteristic oscillation of the photon (say,
3238 single 13.7 eV photon) and we have a reference frame origin:
3239 the position of the proton (which is still
3240\begin_inset Quotes eld
3241\end_inset
3242
3243everywhere in the universe
3244\begin_inset Quotes erd
3245\end_inset
3246
3247) and a reference for time (when the deionization occurred,) albeit we have a problem if it did not happen at the instant of the birth of the universe.
3248 Unless we start doing cosmology or something,
3249 and talk about temperatures.
3250 And maybe that is the legitimate way of breaking out of the paradox.
3251\end_layout
3252
3253\begin_layout Standard
3254Hmm.
3255 I don't know how to talk of the temperature of a
3256\begin_inset Formula $\left\langle \psi\right|$
3257\end_inset
3258
3259 for a single electron that fills all of the universe.
3260 It seems to be momentum–less....
3261 this is confusing.
3262 A to–do item is to figure out if there's some rational way to talk about this.
3263 I don't know how,
3264 right now.
3265\end_layout
3266
3267\begin_layout Standard
3268At any rate,
3269 we seem to have prepared a state involving a structure consisting of a hydrogen atom,
3270 together with the light–cone extending from this atom.
3271 Thus,
3272 even though the hydrogen atom could be anywhere (is everywhere) the light cone is specifically anchored to the hydrogen atom as well.
3273 So,
3274 to be precise,
3275 the
3276\begin_inset Quotes eld
3277\end_inset
3278
3279correct
3280\begin_inset Quotes erd
3281\end_inset
3282
3283 solution to the Schrodinger equation is not just the ground state (or,
3284 more generally the
3285\begin_inset Formula $\psi_{n,l,m}$
3286\end_inset
3287
3288) but that,
3289 together with a photon field,
3290 and the on–shell waves emitted upon the descent of the electron to the ground state.
3291 This is the complete structure.
3292\end_layout
3293
3294\begin_layout Standard
3295The philosophical question is then:
3296 is this the simplest example of
3297\begin_inset Quotes eld
3298\end_inset
3299
3300here and now
3301\begin_inset Quotes erd
3302\end_inset
3303
3304?
3305 An
3306\begin_inset Quotes eld
3307\end_inset
3308
3309event happened
3310\begin_inset Quotes erd
3311\end_inset
3312
3313;
3314 the hydrogen atom came to be;
3315 it has a specific entangles haecceity of a proton,
3316 an electron,
3317 and some garbage in the electromagnetic field that seems to propagate only if you can measure time.
3318 But the only way to measure time is to measure the frequency of the photon.
3319 And since the metric is on shell,
3320
3321\begin_inset Formula $p^{\mu}p_{\mu}=0$
3322\end_inset
3323
3324 and so that photon is perpetually
3325\begin_inset Quotes eld
3326\end_inset
3327
3328at zero distance
3329\begin_inset Quotes erd
3330\end_inset
3331
3332 away from the de–ionization event.
3333 These all taken together is a single individual here–and–now event,
3334 and then,
3335 nothing more happens.
3336 Nothing more can happen.
3337 Well,
3338 since it is the only atom in an otherwise empty de Sitter universe ...
3339 Hmm.
3340\end_layout
3341
3342\begin_layout Standard
3343Blah blah blah diagonalize the Hamiltonian.
3344 (Punt – not today.)
3345\end_layout
3346
3347\begin_layout Standard
3348This has two characteristics:
3349 the past,
3350 before the de-ionization event,
3351 cannot be changed.
3352 The event happened,
3353 and it cannot be undone.
3354 So it would appear that the past is indeed frozen into place.
3355 The future was unwritten up until the de–ionization happened:
3356 we did not know when it might happen.
3357 Again hand–wave blah blah Born rule,
3358 but the future was unwritten,
3359 unknown,
3360 until it
3361\begin_inset Quotes eld
3362\end_inset
3363
3364happened
3365\begin_inset Quotes erd
3366\end_inset
3367
3368,
3369 and the hydrogen atom cam into being,
3370 and then became part of the unchangeable past.
3371\end_layout
3372
3373\begin_layout Standard
3374Troublingly here,
3375 the future also disappeared:
3376 that hydrogen atom will be,
3377 forever more.
3378 So this future is choiceless.
3379 So,
3380 if you want to have choices,
3381 you have to have a universe with more than two particles in it.
29203382
29213383\end_layout
29223384
3385\begin_layout Standard
3386Say we have two protons and one electron.
3387 Does that alter anything in any meaningful way?
3388 Can we say
3389\begin_inset Quotes eld
3390\end_inset
3391
3392which
3393\begin_inset Quotes erd
3394\end_inset
3395
3396 proton ended up being bound?
3397 Sort of.
3398 The Pauli exclusion principle says that there is a sign–change in the wave function if we exchange the positions for these two particles,
3399 so when the electron binds to one and not the other,
3400 there is some sign change,
3401 but is that sign change observable somewhere in some way?
3402 Does answering this question even matter?
3403\end_layout
3404
3405\begin_layout Standard
3406The point here is that somehow,
3407 haecceity is a specific binding of some collection of particles,
3408 and it is the binding that makes things specific.
3409\end_layout
3410
3411\begin_layout Standard
3412But this is only
3413\begin_inset Quotes eld
3414\end_inset
3415
3416thisness
3417\begin_inset Quotes erd
3418\end_inset
3419
3420,
3421 I am concerned about
3422\begin_inset Quotes eld
3423\end_inset
3424
3425when-ness
3426\begin_inset Quotes erd
3427\end_inset
3428
3429.
3430 Whatever.
3431 It took me 75 minutes to write the above diary entry,
3432 and it is now 3:15 AM and I am going to bed.
3433 Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin into the future.
3434 That irritating Steve Miller song.
3435 And then that other song,
3436 less irritating,
3437 from Pink Floyd.
3438 Time!
3439 Tick tick tick.
3440\end_layout
3441
29233442\begin_layout Section*
29243443The End
29253444\end_layout