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More hot air
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by Linas Vepštas <linasvepstas@gmail.com> · 2026-01-14T20:31:41.000Z

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10811081\end_layout
10821082
10831083\begin_layout Standard
1084which suggests or implies the natrual topol
1084Anyway,
1085 I think I'm done here.
1086 Before moving to the next step,
1087 some closing remarks:
1088 spaces like
1089\begin_inset Formula $\prod_{x\in I}\mathbb{R}_{x}$
1090\end_inset
1091
1092 endowed with the box topology (or similar) allow crazy paradoxes like Banach–Tarski,
1093 discussions of the Axiom of Choice,
1094 the Borel hierarchy of descriptive set theory,
1095 and other very unusual,
1096 arcane and abstract topics that are more–or–less impossible to convey to high–school students or
1097\begin_inset Quotes eld
1098\end_inset
1099
1100normal
1101\begin_inset Quotes erd
1102\end_inset
1103
1104 adults.
1105 I do not think any of these are relevant to QM,
1106 but I think it would be wrong to not point these out,
1107 as they are part of the visible landscape in this particular area.
10851108\end_layout
10861109
10871110\begin_layout Standard
1088fine top box paradoxes e.g.
1111A bit more interesting and relevant is the countable product
1112\begin_inset Formula
1113\[
1114\left(I\cap\mathbb{Q}\right)\times\mathbb{R}\simeq\prod_{p/q\in I\cap\mathbb{Q}}\mathbb{R}_{p/q}=\mathbb{R}\times\mathbb{R}\times\cdots
1115\]
1116
1117\end_inset
1118
1119where
1120\begin_inset Formula $\mathbb{Q}$
1121\end_inset
1122
1123 are the rationals.
1124 This appears to be interesting when one asks for the function
1125\begin_inset Formula $f$
1126\end_inset
1127
1128 to be continuous on the natural topology of
1129\begin_inset Formula $\mathbb{R}$
1130\end_inset
1131
1132.
1133 Values at the rationals appear to determine values everywhere else.
1134 This is again in the
1135\begin_inset Quotes eld
1136\end_inset
1137
1138duhh,
1139 obvious
1140\begin_inset Quotes erd
1141\end_inset
1142
1143 category,
1144 but I mention this because this is not at all the case when one works with iterated function systems or fractals or other systems having fractal nature.
1145 Such systems factor through the Cantor set
1146\begin_inset Formula $2^{\omega}$
1147\end_inset
1148
1149;
1150 the
1151\begin_inset Quotes eld
1152\end_inset
1153
1154conventional
1155\begin_inset Quotes erd
1156\end_inset
1157
1158 topology for the Cantor set is the infinite binary tree.
1159 It appears commonly enough in number theory;
1160 it does not normally appear in physics,
1161 except peripherally via the fractals as they show in chaotic systems (e.g.
1162 period doubling in high–dimensional turbulence,
1163 etc.)
1164\end_layout
1165
1166\begin_layout Standard
1167Anyway,
1168 this is neither here nor there;
1169 QM is not about continuous functions,
1170 but about square–integrable ones.
10891171
1172\emph on
1173i.e.
1174
1175\emph default
1176 Hilbert spaces endowed with the topology of uniform convergence.
1177 These arise in
1178\begin_inset Quotes eld
1179\end_inset
1180
1181first quantization
1182\begin_inset Quotes erd
1183\end_inset
1184
1185;
1186 the textbook example is the guitar string or violin string
1187\begin_inset Formula
1188\[
1189\frac{d^{2}}{dx^{2}}\psi_{n}\left(x\right)=E_{n}\psi_{n}\left(x\right)
1190\]
1191
1192\end_inset
1193
1194subject to
1195\emph on
1196e.g.
1197
1198\emph default
1199 the boundary condition
1200\begin_inset Formula $\psi\left(0\right)=\psi\left(1\right)=0$
1201\end_inset
1202
1203 and (for this example) having the usual sine–wave basis.
1204 The point here is that this Hilbert space is already non–local.
1205 If one uses the bra-ket notation
1206\begin_inset Formula $\psi\left(x\right)=\left\langle x\left|\psi\right.\right\rangle $
1207\end_inset
1208
1209 and then ask
1210\begin_inset Quotes eld
1211\end_inset
1212
1213what is the spatial location of
1214\begin_inset Formula $\left|\psi\right\rangle $
1215\end_inset
1216
1217?
1218\begin_inset Quotes erd
1219\end_inset
1220
1221 the answer is
1222\begin_inset Quotes eld
1223\end_inset
1224
1225everywhere,
1226 all at once
1227\begin_inset Quotes erd
1228\end_inset
1229
1230,
1231 because
1232\begin_inset Formula $\left|\psi\right\rangle $
1233\end_inset
1234
1235 does not have a
1236\begin_inset Quotes eld
1237\end_inset
1238
1239spatial location
1240\begin_inset Quotes erd
1241\end_inset
1242
1243;
1244 its a vector in Hilbert space.
1245 Duhh.
1246 Again,
1247 this is trivial and trite,
1248 and taught in college QM courses;
1249 I'm belaboring the obvious because ...
1250 well ...
1251 the next question:
1252
1253\begin_inset Quotes eld
1254\end_inset
1255
1256what happens when I measure the wave function
1257\begin_inset Formula $\psi$
1258\end_inset
1259
1260 at the spatial location
1261\begin_inset Formula $x$
1262\end_inset
1263
1264?
1265\begin_inset Quotes erd
1266\end_inset
1267
1268 and
1269\begin_inset Quotes eld
1270\end_inset
1271
1272how does that work?
1273\begin_inset Quotes erd
1274\end_inset
1275
1276 and
1277\begin_inset Quotes eld
1278\end_inset
1279
1280what does it mean?
1281\begin_inset Quotes erd
1282\end_inset
1283
1284 and
1285\begin_inset Quotes eld
1286\end_inset
1287
1288what is the mechanism,
1289 exactly?
1290\begin_inset Quotes erd
1291\end_inset
1292
1293 This last question,
1294
1295\begin_inset Quotes eld
1296\end_inset
1297
1298what is the mechanism?
1299\begin_inset Quotes erd
1300\end_inset
1301
1302 is particularly challenging,
1303 because the it seems to require some kind of non–linearity or something.
1304 because linear systems don't collapse,
1305 can't collapse.
1306 This last sentence is non–obvious,
1307 but lies at the core,
1308 the crux of a lot of hot air and speculation about the mechanisms of QM wave–function collapse.
1309 At present,
1310 I can only add to the body of speculation,
1311 and warm the globe by exhausting my personal hot air on the topic.
1312\end_layout
1313
1314\begin_layout Standard
1315Anyway...
1316\end_layout
1317
1318\begin_layout Standard
1319gaussia
10901320\end_layout
10911321
10921322\begin_layout Section*